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Hermes and Another Balder Analogue?
While preparing to actually write down some of my thoughts around Odin’s brothers Vili and Ve, I have been looking at other related IE Gods and Goddesses. Of course, Hermes must be in that list. I found a rather interesting bit about Hermes son, Cephalus:
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Cephalus was out hunting and Aurora, the goddess…Read More-
I’m quite fond of those parallels, and they do have me convinced of a shared root to these stories. Problem is, how do we go about reconstructing it?
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I want to puzzle out if there are any strong signs of what I believe to be the case, that he is a solar or seasonal God, who is deaf and rebirth is cyclical.
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I also want for that. It’s so difficult when there are pieces and evidences, but every non-eddaic source portrays him as a mortal man.
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That sounds like Ovid’s version of the myth. I think that to do the type of analysis you want to do, you need to go back further, to the original version of the myth. I find that with the Greeks and Romans, over time, there are additions and changes to various myths as poets wanted to put their own stamp on things.
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Osric replied to the topic The God-Kings: Scyld, Scef, Beowa – and Related Figures in the forum
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Comparative Family Trees
Old English (Beowulf proem): “Shield, son of Sheaf” — boat-funeral for Scyld; no boat-birth.
- Sceaf (“Sheaf”) — progenitor; no narrative here of a boat-birth in Beowulf
- Scyld Scefing (“Shield, son of Sheaf”) — founder-king; ship-funeral described
- Beow…
- Scyld Scefing (“Shield, son of Sheaf”) — founder-king; ship-funeral described
- Sceaf (“Sheaf”) — progenitor; no narrative here of a boat-birth in Beowulf
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Osric replied to the topic The God-Kings: Scyld, Scef, Beowa – and Related Figures in the forum
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Boat-foundling and founder-king motifs in Germanic traditions
Tradition
Foundling?
Name
Meaning
RoleEnglish (later chronicles)
Yes
Sceaf
Sheaf
Found in a boat with grain; father of Scyld.English (Beowulf)
No
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I’m gonna have to ponder this, certainly they do seem to be related, maybe both stemming from an even older story?